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Iowa — “This isn’t black versus white, this is everybody versus wrong.”

Rob Johnson, a community organizer and pastor, says the conversation about racism in America is not an easy one. But it is one that everyone should have with themselves, their friends and family.

Johnson joined WHO 13’s Jodi Long and Dan Winters to talk about how that conversation should begin and how you can turn guilt into action.